[Bananafish] Biblical Fiction

Fri May 26 21:22:10 EDT 2006

You know, guys, this is pretty off topic. Maybe we should take this thread
off-list, hmm?

Sincerely,

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> From: BIJAN BAYNE <bijanc at hotmail.com>
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> Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 01:18:20 +0000
> To: <bananafish at lists.bway.net>
> Subject: [Bananafish] Biblical Fiction
> 
> Jim (and others)- I think you're giving grassroots American believers a lot of
> credit- there are more non-evangelicals and non-fundamentalists who assume
> Moses wrote the Pentateuch than one might think w/o asking. Moreover, most
> churchgouers I ask get stopped in their tracks when asked "...Which creation
> story in Genesis, there are two?", "How did Cain and Abel multiply?", or "did
> you know Great Floods and virgin births exist in other, earlier traditions?"
> 
> These are collegians, not Holy Rollers, of whom I'm asking these things. Same
> type of educated, suit-and-necktie gig, 9-to-5 folk I see reading "Da Vinci"
> on the subway and in airports. (it may be their lack of previous questioning,
> cathechism notwithstanding, that makes the novel particularly attractive to
> them, whereas I've seen best sellers that debunk everything from Hitler's
> Fuhrerbunker suicide to the Biblical accounts of The Crucifixion to Oswald
> acting alone since my teens. My disagreement is not with believers as much as
> it is who say, "Almost no American Christians in 2006 really think that... do
> they BCB?"
> 
> BCB
> 
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>>>> This is terribly naive, BCB. I don't know that anyone believes Moses
>>>> witnessed all the events he related -- even fundamentalists, who are
>>>> more likely to adhere to some kind of dictation theory of inspiration,
>>>> as if God told Moses word for word what to say. Beyond this, previous
>>>> oral traditions and reliance upon older semitic texts are taken for
>>>> granted by even conservative Biblical scholars who insist on Mosaic
>>>> authorship of the Pentateuch. Most -- even conservative and moderate
>>>> scholars -- acknowledge some editorial interpolation as well. The POV
>>>> you're attacking isn't so much representative of Christian orthodoxy
>>>> but a relatively small group of fundamentalists.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim R
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> Daniel: My standard, though the Biblical authors didn't "state"
>>>> anything, is
>>>>>> history. Moses could not have witnessed the events in Genesis, for he was
>>>>>> not alive, nor those of Exodus, for it was Joshua, not he, that "lived"
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> see the Jews reach the Promised Land. Paul never met "Jesus" (Yeshua in
>>>>>> Hebrew, which is actually closer to "Joshua"), and the four Gosepels
>>>> differ
>>>>>> as to details of major events such as the Messiah's birth (Nazareth v.
>>>>>> Bethlehem), Judas' death (suicide or murder) and the Last Supper. Thus
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> fertile ground for novelists such as Irving Wallace, Ludlum, and more
>>>>>> recently Brown.
>>>>>> 
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