[Bananafish] that itch thing (and then i'll shut up)

Wed Jan 31 01:02:29 EST 2007

I don't even remember where this all began. I think I was giving my personal 
feelings regarding Paul. So stern. So uncompromising. Makes Jesus look like 
Larry Flint. Just my personal take on the man.
But I believe the general consensus in the modern church(s) is that Paul 
determined the Gentilization (I know that's not a word) of Christianity.
At the time, there was a debate raging in the church as to whether Jesus had 
come to save the Jews alone (as Messiah of the chosen people) or all of 
mankind.
Paul ended that debate. It was Paul who taught that Christ had come to free 
us from "The Law" and had overthrown basic tenets of Judiasm, the dietary 
laws, the day of the Sabbath,  and "an eye for an eye" just as examples.

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>   1. Re: Pauline Ethnicity/Scratching an itch on phantom limbs
>      (Yocum, Daniel R Civ 21 CES/CEOE)
>   2. Scratching an itch on phantom limbs (BIJAN BAYNE)
>   3. Re: Scratching an itch on phantom limbs
>      (Yocum, Daniel R Civ 21 CES/CEOE)
>   4. Pauline Ethnicity/Scratching an itch on phantomlimbs (BIJAN BAYNE)
>   5. Two Sides Same Coin/Scratching an itch on phantom limbs
>      (BIJAN BAYNE)
>   6. Re: Pauline Ethnicity/Scratching an itch on phantomlimbs
>      (Yocum, Daniel R Civ 21 CES/CEOE)
>   7. Re: Two Sides Same Coin/Scratching an itch on phantom limbs
>      (Yocum, Daniel R Civ 21 CES/CEOE)
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> From: "Yocum, Daniel R Civ 21 CES/CEOE" <daniel.yocum at Peterson.af.mil>
> Subject: Re: [Bananafish] Pauline Ethnicity/Scratching an itch on
> phantom limbs
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> Bijan, I agree that genes are determinate concerning level of melanin
> content; it is just interesting to note that the genome (expressing
> melanin content) commonly found among my community locally and on a
> global scale preserves the variation found in the ancient documentation.
> Which supports your assertion that "race" based on purely physical
> attributes is an abstract construct, often irrelevant.  It all depends
> upon how one defines race, I consider it a relatively useless term.
> Moses' and Joseph's skin tone is unknown.  Whether Moses was found
> "unusual' or not may not be contingent upon skin tone (predominantly)
> but more rather upon dress, manners, and language.  The ancient records
> tend to describe strangers by these categories rather than skin tone.
> Daniel
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> Shouldn't really matter, as "race" is a social contruct, and the genes
> that determine say, complexion bear no relation to those for height,
> hair texture, or vocal tone. That being said, Moses was probably rather
> dusky as well, given that he was raised in the Pharoah's domain and no
> one though him "unusual". Ditto Joseph, whose own brothers, having not
> seen him for years, couldn't distinguish him among an Egyptian "lineup".
>
> BCB
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> From: "Yocum, Daniel R Civ 21 CES/CEOE" <daniel.yocum at Peterson.af.mil>
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> Very interesting, this is the first that I have heard of an Image of
> Yeshua dating from the 1st century.  Do you have a source or reference I
> can chase down?  I know that there were early images of Simon Magus in
> mosaics and Zeus on coins with other Greek/Roman gods and these images
> were used centuries later as models for the traditional christian
> iconography.
> Daniel
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> Lots of intermingling of cultures and belief systems in the first
> century and the early church. Archaeologists have found coins w/ image
> of Yeshua on one side, Bacchus on the other.
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> BCB
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> From: "Yocum, Daniel R Civ 21 CES/CEOE" <daniel.yocum at Peterson.af.mil>
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> Yes, Sheba is an important exception and it goes far in explaining the
> Ethiopian reading from Isaiah sitting in his chariot.
> Daniel
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> "...The ancient records tend to describe strangers by these categories
> rather than skin tone."
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> Daniel
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> Agreed Daniel. The rare exception applied of course to "Sheba".
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> BCB
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> Thanks.
> Daniel
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> I'll "Google" for Jesus/Bacchus coin references and dates- though the
> mythology students among our number  may weigh in first and say such
> coinage appeared later than the first cent.
>
> BCB
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> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:53:05 -0700
> From: "Yocum, Daniel R Civ 21 CES/CEOE" <daniel.yocum at Peterson.af.mil>
> Subject: [Bananafish] Youtube Videos
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> This was sent to me from another list.  I thought there might be some
> here who would find it useful.
> Daniel
>
> It is now possible to save these videos to watch later.
>
> All you need is the Youtube Grabber and the FLV File Player.
>
> Required software links...
>
> Yotube Grabber v.3.1 http://www.download.com/Youtube-Grabber/3000-
>
> <http://www.download.com/Youtube-Grabber/3000->
> 2071_4-10607323.html?tag=pdp_prod
>
>
> FLV File Player v.1.3.3 http://www.download.com/FLV-Player/3000-
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> <http://www.download.com/FLV-Player/3000->
> 2139_4-10505954.html?tag=lst-0-1
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